RE: Stop Waiting for a Label to Discover You: Building Your Own Music Career from Scratch

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I'm seeing this post 3 times in my feed.

I can see the music industry has changed a lot even though I've never been part of it. The most money I made from music was on Hive plus a few sales on Bandcamp. It seems like Spotify has been gamed by AI crap and fake listeners. I really feel for those who want to make a career in music now. If you are not a top artist it looks like you can't make much. I think it's still the case that you need some dedicated fans who will buy everything you do as casual listeners don't want to pay.

I still have hopes that Hive can play a part. Obviously the low price does not help, but if we can get artists here and fans power up to increase their vote then it could improve.



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yeah, that was something weird happening on my end. Looked like the post was failing to go through, then I tried again, and again, and then all of a sudden they started showing up... Sorry, lol.

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Well, I am trying to get away from needing to worry about the price of Hive and just use the chain for what it is. That's why I am not really pushing the whole crypto narrative as much as I am just the features of the platform. Same with the AI tools.

That's where I have been trying to get with it for years now.

But yeah, Hive did well for me pre 2022, but I have had some tracks licensed that I did well on. Streaming was never really great for me. But I did sell a bunch of CDs and such back in the day. Most of my money was made by gigs, either studio or DJ gigs.

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I've got some tracks on Spotify that never made me anything.

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Oh yeah, as @groove-logic I have multiple albums and singles out there that haven't done squat for me, lol. I lucked up with some of the stuff that did do well for me.

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I think the only way to make money in the music biz these days are just like the old days...live paying gigs.

Pubs at first until you find an audience and scale it up.

People want to see live music. Personally I think the current streaming services are finished or will be pretty soon.

Many big acts have pulled their music off these platforms.

Why do you think the Stones still tour? Tickets pay wages plus they sell albums and other merchandise.

Live performance builds an audience of true fans in my experience which is quite extensive.

I was in the music industry for years and saw what worked and what didn't.

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This is true. It's the only many many artists are making any money at all is gigging. But some of these acts... DAMN at the ticket prices, lol. I ain't paying it, lol. Especially in the states where we have Ticketmaster or Ticketbastard as I like to call them, and Live Nation that tack on these insane fees on top of tickets that it nearly doubles the price.

I am trying to figure out how people can at least do some live streaming either here or just go through our Discord. Have some open mic nights or whatever in the Discord kind of thing.

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Ticketbastard

is another huge problem that needs kicking off the planet.

Eye-watering ticket prices changes the dynamics of who can attend a concert.

We still have pubs and small clubs where we can see live music and they are well attended with small or no entrance fees.

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yeah, we do too. I have just been pretty anti social lately, which needs to change I suppose if I am going to try and grassroots this thing, lol. People are just weird these days, lol.

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Tell me about it lol. No one seems to want to put the work into building a music career the right way.

I blame social media for giving a false impression of what it takes to make it.

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100%!!! which is what upvote I gave this comment, lol. I mean the dead internet theory is real. It's getting where bots have out numbered the real people. That's one of my biggest issues with marketing is that at this point social media, even paid ads, are like screaming into a void.

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