RE: Sound of Talent

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Which is why kids shouldn't be making a lot of the decisions for themselves at that age, and why parents should be parents and do a little bit of "forcing" or at least, some manipulation and some boundaries

On the flipside of that you do have the kids who are at least somewhat talented at something but are or may end up deeply resentful of their parents for forcing it and destroying their enjoyment of it.

Statistically insignificantly I'm remembering two specific incidents (one involving art and the other sport) where the parents (probably with the best of intentions) forced/pushed their kids in their talent areas (they were actually incredible) to the point where the kids burnt out and straight up quit completely.

I think the art kid did start drawing again eventually but I don't know if sport kid ever went back to their sport.

What do you wish you had practiced a lot more as a kid?

I wish my parents hadn't been given straight up wrong information when I was a kid (apparently it's not uncommon for multilingual kids to take a bit longer to start talking as they have more languages to process and the violently wrong conclusion drawn from this at the time was that it was a developmental delay) and taught sibling dearest and I at least some of the languages they know (particularly Mum, I think Dad knows three but Mum seems to know about seven if you count distinct dialects as separate languages) when we were that young.

Because they followed the stupid advice to teach only one language during language development and any subsequent languages afterwards, I got asked when I was 6 or 7 maybe (I don't remember exactly when, just that I was tiny) if I wanted to go to Malay School. I hated school (bored out of my skull, had an infinite amount of infinitely better things I could have been doing instead) so of course I straight up said no, I was absolutely not under any circumstances wasting another day in a school type environment.

Stupid mistake from a stupid kid on my part because obvioiusly I had no way of knowing it would be useful later and perhaps stupid parenting mistake on my mum's part for not forcing it but she probably had an infinite amount of infinitely better things to do than fight about that too.

Hope smallsteps has an amazing music teacher who is able to keep her interested long term :D (don't even have to worry about her getting encouragement from her parents XD)



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On the flipside of that you do have the kids who are at least somewhat talented at something but are or may end up deeply resentful of their parents for forcing it and destroying their enjoyment of it.

You probably see some of that in gymnastics. The "hockey parents" here can be quite extreme at times. There is a difference between being supportive, and being aggressive - When I played sport as a kid (hockey) there were some aggressive parents.

The language thing annoys me!!

My parents were a bit the same, but lazier - they didn't teach us because "we are in Australia, we only need English" - the bad information they had was similar, that the "lag" in learning meant development issues - but it actually goes the other way.

Malay school??

I have never heard of such a thing - and my dad was from Malaysia! :D

I hated school (bored out of my skull, had an infinite amount of infinitely better things I could have been doing instead)

Looking back, do you think it was because the school just didn't challenge you, or was it because you weren't interested in "school" at all?

And yeah - so far the teacher has been very supportive- and since the lessons are at her home, we know where she lives.... ;D

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You probably see some of that in gymnastics

Not so much at our club fortunately (happens but not common).

When I played sport as a kid (hockey) there were some aggressive parents.

Same when the boys played footy a hundred billion years ago. Like calm down it's a freaking Auskick game x_x the umpire is literally 12-13 you're not "helping them get used to" anything you're just making pathetic excuses to justify your crappy behaviour.

"we are in Australia, we only need English"

Yeh that's also pretty terrible -_-

while people should definitely do their best to acclimatise to the culture of any place they're staying I think it's always good to maintain their language and the good bits of their culture, and also I'm extremely anti-colonialism so any natural language being the global dominant one will never, ever be acceptable to me

Malay school??

I'm pretty sure it's only a thing here XD (and maybe in other countries where the language isn't native) I don't know if you learn other stuff as well but I know it was mostly to learn the language. There was also a Chinese school. I know there's a Japanese School somewhere around here and there's probably other language ones around the place too.

Looking back, do you think it was because the school just didn't challenge you, or was it because you weren't interested in "school" at all?

It was mostly deep resentment at being forced to pay attention to/"waste" time on things I didn't have any interest in or see the relevance of (that hasn't actually changed at all XD).

Then I went to uni and while I still didn't do that great (I just don't have an academically inclined brain) I really enjoyed it, the more focused courses meant even the less interesting units were at least somewhat relevant.

I still remember one of the first lectures though in which the lecturer basically said to forget a lot of the stuff we learned in high school as we were going to learn how to do it properly and that was the realisation that I felt I had literally wasted the 12 years of my life in school. Didn't do great for the still high resentment levels XD

I also feel like that contributes to why a lot of young people have such atrocious work ethic.

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