Pro or Anti War Pigs?
Waking to the news that Ozzy Osborne had, not unexpectedly, died, Jamie went straight to the vinyl - sadly, not in the best condition, being well used and scratched. When you grow up with certain music, there's a kind of sadness, as if you are saying goodbye to your childhood. There's the nostalgia that comes with remembering how the music made you feel and what you were doing at the time.

Osborne & Sabbath were of course known for their associations with the devil, which was quite amusing as their use of satanic symbols and biting heads off bats were all just for show. These days we understand how bands create an image to sell records - back then, it was quite confronting.
It's super hard, though, to reconcile fond memories of the band with more recent political actions by the Osbornes.
One of their most famous songs of all time was War Pigs - you can probably hear the notes just reading the first few lines. Even if you weren't a Sabbath fan you'd recognise this song. What’s striking is that ot speaks to the very themes of war propaganda, disinformation, and manipulation of the masses, but Ozzy and his wife's support of Israel and it's current oppression and slaughter of Palestinians seems to align with the systems - the war machines and their propaganda - that Black Sabbath sung against.
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction
In the fields, the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Oh, Lord, yeah
It's this song that perhaps is the greatest irony, given the Osborne's vocal support of Israel. How can someone who sang about the devastation of war, and who was known in his younger years for his rebellious spirit, endorse the perpetuation of violence and oppression?
Ozzy sings about war tactics - adversaries are seen as enemies of truth and they twist the narrative to suit their own agendas. The BBC’s Gaza: How to Survive a Warzone documentary was framed as ‘Hamas propagisanda’ by the Osbournes - and it was pulled because of the controversy and the 200 signatories that asked for it's removal due to impartiality - but the real issue lies in how easily people can be brainwashed into believing that criticism of one side is being supportive of the other. The Osbournes' petition to remove the documentary shows another example of how ‘anti-Zionism’ becomes conflated with ‘anti-Semitism’. It's a false connection that just serves to silence dissent and continue the story of 'us vs them', and in this case 'you've always hated Jews, and this is just another example of that', often playing on shame around the Holocaust.
As far as I can understand, having not seen the documentary, the biggest problem was that the narrator was related to someone in Hamas, rather than all the voices being anti Zionist. There was a range of interviews with both sides, including victims of the atrocity of October 7th. There was certainly criticism of Hamas from both sides. Again, the criticism seems to stem from confusion about 'anti jewish' and 'anti zionist' and 'pro Hamas' arguments. If you speak out against war, specifically the mass killings of woman and children and journalists in Gaza, you must be 'pro Hamas' and anti semitic. The BBC refuted this, arguing they were really careful to make this distinction. Still, they pulled it anyway.
Whose minds are poisoned here?
Israel propaganda continues to deny what is happening with three main arguments as far as I can see - one, they're actually helping Palestinians and feeding them, rather than bombing and sniping them when they gather for aid. News coming out of Gaza unequivocally argues children are dying of malnutrition if they aren't dying of their injuries. Two, they argue that all news coming out of Gaza is Hamas lies - well, that's the pot calling the kettle black, and it's fascinating how Israel doesn't let in neutral journalists and more journalists have died in that conflict than any other war. Three, anyone speaking up against the IDF and Israel must be anti semitic. Oh, and a fourth - when anything terrible happens, they assure us it's an accident or they'll investigate, and then they go and do it again.
Arguably, we shouldn't associate any of this with the death of a much loved musician that was a cultural icon. It's yet another case of confusing the art with the artist.
But whilst we played Sabbath this morning, I couldn't help but feel uncomfortable.
Maybe we should separate the art from the artist - we've done it many times before - but the Osbornes actions in this current climate make that hard to do. How can we fondly remember a band who sang with metallic fury against the establishment yet ended up staunchly supporting the status quo of a government and landscape with a fraught political history?
It was Sharon Osborne that called for the removal of Kneecap's US visas, a band who is staunchly anti IDF and pro Palestine - not pro Hamas, as many zionists will cry in protest. What kind of cognitive disconnect exists in people who say in the same breath that you cannot be pro Israel and anti genocide at the same time? That you can live with the 'ashes of bodies burning' so long as the state of Israel persists? How can one support a system that uses violence and disinformation to maintain power and support but also say you're pro peace? How can you silence bands who are critical of the IDF and speak up against genocide?
Now, in darkness, world stops turning
Ashes where their bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of Judgment, God is calling
On their knees, the war pigs crawling
Begging mercies for their sins
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings
Oh, Lord, yeah
I don't think there will be a day of judgement for the war pigs. I'm a little cynical like that. I think both 'sides' believe they're on the right side of history. But there's many who certainly judged Ozzy Osborne for playing a concert in Israel against a boycott. Did he play War Pigs whilst children were dying? To say that 'politicians don't understand me and I don't understand them.' was a cop out - as the drama with the BBC's accidental live streaming of Bobby Vylan's chant 'death to the IDF' at Glastonbury proved, music is political - and his wife's cry to ban Kneecap from Coachella certainly suggests that music can absolutely lack neutrality.
Besides, if he was speaking up against anti semitism, then he certainly wasn't afraid to voice his own views against atrocity, discrimination and religious persecution.
It's awesome to see that some musicians are banding together to resist the censorship of their voices against genocide, and that finally some politicians are speaking up against the horror in Gaza at last. I'm not sure if I expected Ozzy speak up at all - he was an old man and not all there and his wife arguably was the voice in his ear - but I find it difficult to feel joy listening to his music when I think of the atrocities undertaken in the name of Zionism. I guess that's why I haven't made this a #threetunetuesday post for @ablaze. It's one thing to talk about the fact Black Sabbath were the godfathers of metal and another to ignore the relationship of the Osbornes to the silencing of voices against genocide, and the continued support of an imperialist regime who believes that God has given them the right to the land at the expense of an entire people.
Sure, you can advocate for peace and the state of Israel, but you can't do that whilst silencing all the other voices that decry the war pigs and the minds that plot destruction.
In the end, it’s hard to reconcile the rebellious anti-hero who sang ‘War Pigs’ with the man who played in Israel, a country whose policies who the vast majority of the world cannot help but find reprehensible. We are listening to a music from long ago that calls out for justice and truth, and at the same time we're aware that it's creator has muddied that message. I can't help feel the tragedy here is is that the music we grew up with is yet another battleground for the same old wars.
With Love,
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Naturally, my reaction was similar to Jamie's last night. It's a good point you make here. Of course, I was extremely saddened to hear of Ozzy's passing, and for me, this falls in the category of loving the artist but not agreeing with his personal action. There were many choices and political views the Osbournes (read, Sharon) took that I personally didn't share. Same with Nick Cave, particularly regarding Israel. Still, I can't not see them as fantastic artists, as far as music is concerned, you know?
On the other hand, to balance, I'm going tonight to a screening of Roger Waters' This is Not a Drill concert. I can think of few people as vocal or as sound-minded, particularly when it comes to these atrocities. Now, there's an artist whose work and personal choices/activism, I can easily reconcile :) I'm guessing you might enjoy it.
It does not seem likely, unfortunately.
You know, I am a huge Nick fan and love his Red Hand Files. I've seen him live many times over the years and it's like attending a church. His performance is always extraordinary. I haven't investigated his response to Israel and to be fair, it's hard to look into the political leanings of every artist you love, but boy there's shock when the gloss is scratched. Off to investigate now. Ugh. I'll get back to you. From memory he's been pretty silent on it and loves his religious shit but not necessarily pro war? Still it seems a bit complicit to not speak out. Perhaps he's reconciling shit himself. Disappointed anyway..but then he's never been one for political posturing.
Roger Waters, yes, I'm keen to see that. Being English and growing up when he did, Pink Floyd is also one of Jamie's loves (as well as The Who and Hawkwind). Dark Side of the Moon is the first album Dad played on his new stereo in the 70s and I still remember waking up to the album even as a kid.
It's hard for me to separate artists from who they are. Think P.Diddy. Not that I liked his music, but jeez if I did not sure I could listen to it..Yet saying that, there's some amazing hip hop/reggae artists I've loved that have dubious attitudes toward woman and even criminal charges and I still enjoy their music - oof.
Of course Ozzy was still a legend. Most fans will blame it all on Sharon of course. But this genocide... Jesus. As I said, fkn hard to get past.
I only like the Nick Cave song with Kylie. At least she doesn't have a state sanctioned label on her. She's mindless slaughter. War is that, but with extra steps. Extra justification. Extra arms deals.
Its abhorrent, no matter who is doing it to who, or why.
Like, just have a chat, have a few drinks, break some bread, and find the common ground and beauty of existing.
Again, the one thing you missed here, that you don't often miss - the interplay of religion in all of this. Sorry for crashing the chain of comments, but I had to.
Oh yep, but I didn't want to go into the whole religion thing. We all know why Zionists believe what they do. Breaking bread is impossible when all this history has unfolded in such horrific ways. The two state solution which was perfectly reasonable and at least a way to live is impossible now, by Israel's design I believe.
It wasn't really a post about religion, more about how it's hard to reconcile people's beliefs and actions with their art. But I probably failed there.
You didn't fail :) I just tried to push my own interpretation into the writing, without going to the effort of writing a similar thing myself. I am a flawed man, for that reason, and for believing that ... were it not for the foolishness of thousands of years of conflict, that people could just get along. I see healing as simple, because, well, I know that we don't have another thousand years in us, and I'm sick of hearing about suffering.
I agree with you about Zionists. The evidence is there in the bodies that lie still in the desert. In the absolutely reprehensible events that have taken place. I was disgusted at the news that a squad of soldiers infiltrated a hospital, dressed as doctors, to take out an "official" of the enemy. It angers me without end that people can do that and not be internationally fucking condemned for their actions, and that's just one act. There's thousands like it.
Going back to music, and Ozzy, and I think about, and tell myself that I can seperate the art from the act, but like you wrote, I struggle to do so too. Sometimes, I just want to appreciate the Art, without knowing anything about the act.
And that's just one incident. As you say, there's many more like it.
3,000 to 4,000 child amputations ... 10 on average per day, often without anesthesia. And Israel say that's fake news.
In May alone, more than 5,100 children aged 6 months to 5 years were admitted for acute malnutrition - and Israel say they're feeding them.
I can't even.
The heart is a muscle. You use yours well.
Ah it's more than that! It's connected to the lungs, which is connected to the breath, and the brain... It's intimatelt connected to our emotional world! Never JUST.
I edited my prior reply to remove the word just. You're 100% correct.
I wasn't aware he had an opinion either way on Israel, but I noticed RW called him out some months ago and looked into it. From what I understand, he played in Israel also despite calls to boycott. I don't think he was particularly aggressive, though, and to me, at least, his talent and beautiful mind balances this out.
I agree. Hard to get past. And we shouldn't.
From what I read he says it's a complex situation and people have the right to freely choose to perform as an artist and that engaging with people on a personal rather than political level is a better way to create dialogue and make connections. He doesn't believe in punishing the ordinary people of Israel.
He's an intelligent man who thinks deeply and I can really see his point.
But at this stage of the game I don't really think that's good enough.
At the very least, why should Israelis enjoy a fucking concert whilst 'ordinary' children starve? Almost certainly there would be 'ordinary' soldiers there and the world has seen what they've been doing.
I think he's tremendously smart, too. He does have a point, but ultimately, it boils down to this,
Because to deny any and every modern comfort would be anti-semitism. Duh.
Duh!
You're not letting us have a concert?? It's like the Holocaust all over again!
Too far?
I told Sharn about this today. Without knowing about (the blame put upon Sharon) gosh, there's the threat of a typo here, I simply said to her, without the knowledge of her views, informed now by your post, that he's:
Finished with his woman.
Ozzy was incredibly and dearly loved for what he did to establish heavy, dark music, and while I don't know much of it beyond a few Sabbath songs, I know that his pioneering made way for so very much of the heavy metal music that I enjoy today.
My "Feed" today was awash with tributes from bands I follow, all of them paying homage to Ozzy's legend.
May his body return to the universe. :)
He definitely was a legend. The way he shifted tempo. You can't begrudge his ground breaking contribution to metal and yeah, fuck you Sharon..
When I heard the news about Ozzy, my first thought was I'm shocked he lasted this long. Then I was sad, but he had a good run for someone who lived as hard as he did.
I didn't know about his stance on Israel. Shame. I can easily believe he didn't pay much attention to it and just did what Sharon said. But who knows. Shame, anyway.
It's always a shame when that happens. Not a singer, but Christopher Hitchens was a Marxist when he was young and was very anti-Vietnam, but turned to a very vocal supported of the Iraq war. Or Neil Young who wrote one of the most famous anti-war songs in modern music but who turned around and supported the Iraq war. Then there was Bono who was anti-war and anti-violence but who supported the Iraq war and who was pals with both Bush and Blair.
Oh well. Separate the art from the artist. No heroes, eh? If you meet the Buddha, kill the Buddha.
Anyway, I drank to Ozzy. No old records here to play, but I listened on streaming for awhile.
Damn right, all the way..
That's my complaint with this song, which I adore. I keep waiting for the hand of God to struck the hour and I don't see that happening any time soon.
I wasn't aware the Osbournes were involved in the action against that documentary. Sad. There's a reason everyone hates Sharon. Still, at this time, my heart weeps for Ozzy. I
believehope that his music will live on well past the hour that the state of israel as we know it today will cease to exist. (See, I cannot stop waiting for God to do something.)Also, much as Ozzy's death hurts, I am glad he won't have to be in that dreadful Osbourne show. I only saw a couple of fragments and was appalled by what they were doing to him. Horrible bunch!
I never watched it! In my mind Black Sabbath and Ozzy were in a particular time and place and had nothing to do with what came next - and Sharon! Ugh.
Good
Dude you'll have to try harder than that
You're too nice