What knowledge and abilities make a top musician? - My niece's questionnaire

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A few days ago my niece sent me a questionnaire to fill out. Her pastime is maybe to create and send to us, family members and friends surveys haha? Well, she has a lot of passion for the subjects she is studying, so I understand her efforts. She is a student at two different Universities, arts and science are where she excels.

So, for the purpose of a research paper on the subject of Psychology in the Faculty of Music Arts, she with her musicology student colleagues made this little questionnaire. It says that it is adapted to both people who have and people who do not have a musical education. But the questions were not that easy... or it was just me who was overthinking some of the questions.

The questionnaire was about experiencing the relevance of musical knowledge and abilities in the valorization of musicians. The title revealed everything:

What knowledge and abilities make a top musician?

For me, it is a whole topic, as music is my profession. Maybe I am not a top musician, so it means that I have been lacking some of the knowledge and abilities to become a top one? Maybe. Thinking about that, I would probably add some more questions, but it is her (their) survey so I guess it's ok. Additionally, the questionnaire is also meant for people who are not musicians, to see how they think and what people, in general, think is more relevant - knowledge or talent for becoming a musician.

She needs it for tomorrow (Friday) but she doesn't have a version in English that I could link here. It would be so good if Hivers could also participate in the survey. Even without the real questionnaire form that I could provide you, I will pass some of her questions here, if someone would like to discuss the topic! Her questions also served as a trigger to think about my path and what was more relevant in my case.

From the options listed, who are the musicians, in your opinion?

We could choose various options, or all if you wanted from the following list: Street musician, DJ, popular singers, band members, someone who performs music, someone who studies music/musicologist, ethnomusicologist, music theorist, someone who makes music/composer, music pedagogue, music producer or others. I selected almost everything 🤣

What, in your opinion, is more important - work or talent?

Here we could choose between work, talent or state that both are equally important. For me, it's an easy question. Both are important, as even if you have talent but you don't really work on it, it will stay unused. You can't develop good skills without practice and hard work.

Is talent something that is innate or something that can be developed over time?

I suppose that we can already have different opinions on this one. While some people state: "Wow, you are such a great talent. You are born with it.", they forget that it is not all. Yes, you have to have some talent, but I also think that it can be developed (if even a little bit of that innate talent exists). There are cases in which you have a predisposition for something but you don't even know about that, it is not written on your forehead. If you somehow get triggered to music, or other arts, and start to work on it, you will certainly develop it. Life is full of surprises, and sometimes we become aware of our predispositions at some advanced age. My students who started to play the piano as adults are some examples.

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The most interesting part came when we were asked to scale the knowledge and skills (first, you had to select for each one, is it knowledge or skill)

Communication. Is it completely relevant for becoming a top musician (5), very relevant (4), neither relevant nor not relevant (3), somewhat relevant (2) or not relevant at all (1)? If I remember well, I answered that neither relevant nor not relevant. I know some musicians that are not very good in socialization and communication with others, but still, they have been achieving good results in their studies.

For the Expressiveness I answered with 5, it is completely relevant in my opinion. You can't perform if you don't have expressiveness. You can, but it will be flat and boring maybe. Now, I think it is maybe not relevant if I think that a music theorist is also a musician (or not?) but it doesn't need this ability. Maybe I answered wrong hahaha.

The same scale from 5 to 1 (from very relevant to not relevant at all) could be used for pedagogical work, playing or singing technique, improvisation, the sense of rhythm, good hearing, knowledge of theoretical musical subjects, knowledge of the historical and aesthetic context, sight reading, adapting the music according to the type of audience.

These are interesting questions, and I was happy to be able to scale them in the survey according to my experience. I don't know though how would a person who is not a musician answer these ones. I think it is directly connected to our experience.

But I really liked the next questions too, which I think everyone can try to give an answer:

To what extent do external factors influence the formation of knowledge and skills of musicians?

I am completely sure that the environment in which a musician has been born and grows up plays an important role, as well as the support from the family. The economic status is also important, but not that much. You can become a musician even if you don't have a Stradivarius violin or can't pay the best teachers, however, these things also influence the development of a musician. As the same happens in some very expensive sports (for example tennis players or F1 drivers).

The last question dealt with internal factors.

To what extent do internal factors influence the formation of knowledge and skills of musicians?

Many things depend on our mental state and emotional strength. As a musician, I know how important conscientiousness and perseverance, sensitivity, and openness to new experiences or cooperativeness are. We can't stick our heads into the sand (thanks for the trigger for this phrase from this post) and wait to become good musicians depending on the external factors. If you don't fight for yourself and don't work really hard, it is difficult to excel in any profession, and in music too.

My path was a mixture of everything, I did have some talent and I recognized it while playing with the piano we had at home when I was small. Later a lot of work, dedication, and external and internal factors played the game to be able to achieve my dream.

If you are a musician or have friends or family members that are, you can probably share many things about this path, to becoming a top musician. And becoming is just one of the phases. Living as a musician is a story in itself, but if you are willing (and I do hope there will be some discussions here in the comment section) please, leave us your experience/ opinion.

Or...

Make a separate post on this topic, using these or similar questions, giving your personal experience and how you became a top musician. Or just a musician. How your friends/family members became musicians and what were the knowledge and skills that were relevant in achieving their goals?
Free style form is also very welcome, why to stick just to questions :))
Have fun 😊

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There's definitely a lot to do about these questions. How could we define what makes a top musician? Top in what sense? 🤣

It seems like a lot of fun to answer. Many different things to consider and our personal bias thrown the mix.

I like how you wanted to include everything in the question about the musicians. I wouldn't consider DJ's musicians, unless they sctual do their own mixes out of everything.

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Hahah, in what sense?
Well, top musician, without an upper limit :D

This is a much more complex topic, and these are just some simple questions, of course, musicians could write here an essay lol
Would you share your experience and wider opinion with us in a separate post? 😃

I like how you wanted to include everything in the question about the musicians.

Actually, I left out popular singers 😂

But then it is a generalization, for sure there are good ones that can be considered musicians ;)

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There's a lot to say. I might do something on the topic once I get back to Cumaná. An essay ok the idea sounds cool.

Popular singers tend to be a weird mix. Some of them are really good musicians but some of them often rely only on talent and I guess that beats the questions of top musician

I think my idea at the beginning had to do with this renown musicians that have a lot of money and are more a product of marketing.

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The essay was just a (half) joke. You know that in this little corner personal opinion, or funny moments while on this path of becoming a musician mean more than an essay 😉

Looking forward to hearing from you when you are back to Cumaná 🎶✍️😀

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Beautiful questions... although I don't think an hoi polloi in the Music realm will answer a good number of the questions 😂😂😂

What is pedagogy in music or improvisation? Hehehe, all they know is to listen to music 😂 I don't think they are bothered about the music jargons

Overall, these are beautiful questions that we musicians need to ponder upon and see where we are lacking. Thus, pushing us to strive to become better.

Although, I have a different perspective to the question of communication. I think communication in music transcends socialising or talking with people. By relating with your script, you are communicating; by playing to a listening audience, you are communicating, and by playing with a musical crew.... damn! Communication is highly important, if not the music will be chaotic. So I STRONGLY HOLD that COMMUNICATION is HIGHLY RELEVANT for even a beginner musician... In other words, it is sine qua non for a top musician.

Well, I had the intention of giving short answers to the questions, but since you turned it around to a prompt for people's contributions in form of a post, I think that will be sweeter 😉. We'll get to hear people's opinion.

Although I'm quite busy at the moment and "sneaking" to engage on Hive at my own detriment 😂😂😂 next week will be perfect for me to resume blogging and hopefully I'll begin with this. 👌

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Yay!!! Am I reading well? You will write a post on this topic??

I am super glad you would do it, there is much to say. Material not just for a comment!!
Looking forward to your contribution 😃

Communication - of course, communication with colleagues and musicians while on the scene, and also with the audience! Very, very important. Though I thought about the people who are shy and not so strong in the field of socialization. Those who would spend 12 hours playing music in a closed room and one minute talking with other people 😂 In the end, they can develop some great playing techniques hahaha

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Yay!!! Am I reading well? You will write a post on this topic??

🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am not worthy to receive such comments 🤲😭

there is much to say. Material not just for a comment!!

Yea, there is. And one can decide to take it head-on from different perspective.

Oh yeah, I now understand your idea of communication better 😂 Sometimes they turn out to be "musical beasts" 😂 after spending time in the "musical cave" 😂😂

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Well..I just happen to cross over this community...never knew about..but seems it is an interesting place to hop in...👍..I have an opinion for third question...there is always a scope of improvement in every field..so it is important thatbwe make the person understand .and never let them to get over confidence .....hope it make sense...

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I am glad you came across this little community 🎶✍️😇 and thank you for answering one of the questions. Of course that we can always make an improvement, even if we think something is perfect, maybe from some other angle it can still be better ;)

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That what my teacher told me once .....the scope for improvement is unlimited.

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Nice interesting post! I think the ability to listen is definitely up there for us. As producers one of the skills we have used the most is being able to bring the best out of others in the studio. However there are so many skills to being am musician.

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Oh, yes, the ability to listen! An essential skill!! Thank you for pointing it out!

And what about the ability to adapt the music according to the type of audience? How you would scale that one, from 5 to 1? (5 is the most relevant and 1 is not relevant at all). Do you adapt the type of music you produce according to the needs of the market and audience or do you do what you like regardless of what the audience would say?

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performance and studio work is different. When we do Stick Up Boys we do what we like. However when we are doing stuff for film and TV the brief is usually very specific and we work closely to that, same as when we are producing or writing for different clients we have to keep them happy!

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It is a characteristic of professionals - that you can adapt and work in different ways and for different needs 👍🎶

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