We're all trying to fix things
I was listening to a podcast the other day while drawing a bit. Tell the truth, I'd just heard a snippet of the interview on Youtube, something about dating or some such and got curious. It was mainly about body language and confidence, with someone who is apparently an expert on that, Vanessa Van Edwards. And it was a fascinating interview, but one thing she said drew my attention in particular, she was saying how poorly we communicate attraction now, how even when we're attracted to somebody, we pretend we're not or perhaps get "tricked" by thinking that there's so many other, better options available. That seems to be an issue now - the abundance of choice is leaving more and more people frustrated and lonely. There's a paradox there, a very sad one.
And she was commenting on a dating experiment and saying how perplexed she was by her client (a woman she was, as I understand it, instructing through the date) who put down her date and treated him very poorly, only for her to admit afterwards how attracted she actually was to him.
Are we now more than before caught in this struggle to dominate one another? To prove who's top dog (doesn't feel like it should be a consideration in love, but there it is)? Me, I've never been a fan of "playing it cool" or playing this who's cooler, more skilled, better at his job, all that competitive noise that people seem to think belongs in relationships. So maybe there's something there I simply do not understand.
Anyway, that wasn't the interesting bit. This lady actually went on to link this inability to communicate attraction and our deepening isolation and distance from each other to the alarming drop in fertility rates that seems to be a tremendous problem all across the Western world.
It could be. There has to be a link. I think it's important to consider, especially before we get caught on more extreme ideas and speculation as to why so few babies are born to us in the West, it's worth considering that we've just been sold this myth that there is someone ever better out there in the distance for us. That we need to pursue them obsessively or that we're better off on our own.
Now, you know me. You know I could never believe that. I don't think you can go it alone, or more importantly, that you should. I reckon it's a tragedy, how many people are feeling isolated and misunderstood and unloved.
But as much as that is tragic, I also find I really moving when I realize how many people are, in their own way, trying to fix everything. It's an interesting issue to me, so I've listened to a fair number of people talking on this fertility crisis, and if there's any one thing I can safely say I've understood is that we are all trying our best. We're throwing around ideas, and trying to put out information and services and actions that are of value that could help lead us on a healthier, happier, more united path. Not everyone, some people are actively sowing dissent and hatred. But most of us, I think, we're trying to fix things in whatever way we think is best.
And you gotta love them for that. People.
The scary part of living in the world today is that it's very very easy to get frightened. It's scary to think we're not having kids. Or loving one another. Or that we're scared and hateful of each other before we even properly meet. But even as that's scary, it balances out when you realize everyone is actually just trying to help.
I know I've said this quite often in the past, but it feels like I haven't in a second, so maybe it bears repeating. We have still (and always) more in common than we have different.
But maybe you're not feeling like listening to a 2h podcast just now. Or thinking about big complex thinkies. That's alright. It's Tuesday.
This was a very nice surprise. I happen to think he's one of the best vocalists we have in this country, as for the young lady, just blown away, frankly.
Reminded me of this. An old favorite because it's impossible not to love. În zid boceşte o voce, ce ai făcut, Manole? Lasă-mi ochii larg închişi ~ it's my favorite take of all on a timeless myth, or rather a few, how we'd rather be blind than see how terrible the ones we love can sometimes be, that we must sacrifice what we love in order to ascend, but is ascension relevant or worthwhile if it means going without that which you loved in the first place?
I mean, the video is cringy as hell, but the song's pretty fire, especially the women. It's an old traditional courtship song that unmarried girls sang and danced as part of a traditional ensemble, taught from mother to daughter. It was forbidden to girls once they were married (having to give up their place in the ensemble, to be replaced by a younger, unmarried girl. This was simply because in itself, participation to the dance suggested a valuable moment in a young woman's "initiation" by the female elders of the village. Purtata was also considered a powerful fertility rite, its very steps (i.e. the women first forming a line then becoming a winding spiral) carrying rich symbolism as old as time itself. It's a compelling melody, I thought.
So all my choices for this week have been of a more traditional bend. So it be. Heyo @ablaze and thanks for initiating and carrying this out! :)
And look who's all businessy now :)) The Diary of a CEO podcast?
The inability to communicate attraction has a flip side - the inability to accept what goes hand in hand with it. Be it just a few nice words, or anything else for that matter :))
And is that something you come up against often in your life? The inability to accept nice words? :) (also I have a feeling "a few" is deliberately misleading there, but okay :P)
Not really, people often realize I mean what I say quite soon after we meet :)) And it's just a few, hardly enough :))
So I keep hearing. You must have no trouble getting your words of attraction accepted by the general population then :)
Well, as a matter of fact, certain segments of the general population are rather restrictive, banning certain vocabulary completely :)) Which seems unfair, especially if they remain free to use these words themselves :)
Ah but don't you know you must observe foreign customs when opening your mouth abroad? :)
I am aware of that! And I am even willing to learn the forbidden vocabulary in the language in question :))
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I never factored ineffective communication into the population collapse crisis but it makes total sense! My wife and I have been watching Four Seasons on Netflix and one of the middle-aged male characters is dating a much younger woman. The intergenerational dynamic is so interesting between him (X) and her (Millennial), especially when they socialize with her friends. The younger generations seem much more in their own heads and overthinking all the time and the older generations tend to be more likely to leap first then deal with the aftermath later. The Millennials also seem more emotionally fragile in some ways but also more emotionally healthy in other ways? It's really interesting and the producers certainly nail some aspects of it.
Dating seems more challenging now than it used to be. The process seemed so natural and fluid when I was single in the 80's/90's. Thinking back it's strange how prevalent alcohol was back then. Mostly everybody drank, especially on dates. Having a few drinks tends to take overthinking out of the equation too. Lol.
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It does seem more fluid from the way people talk of it! Or wonder why it's so difficult now. I don't know if the communication difficulties are the only thing to blame, but they seem to be one of them, for sure.
Now I'm curious about that series, I may check it out! Thank you :)
I'd bet it's a variety of factors—more screen time, world-events like the pandemic, less alcohol consumption, culture shifts, etc. You're welcome! It's a remake of an early 80's Alan Alda film but there are some decent moments in the Netflix series.
I loved that last video! I laughed because there is so much truth in those seemingly innocent scenes. I believe that human beings have an inability to communicate their feelings. If you notice how a child expresses interest, through crying, hitting or tantrums, you realize that many people have not matured in this regard. In class, I see how boys, men and women, show little interest in having partners. Why? is the question they ask. I think they saw something wrong in previous generations that makes them afraid to repeat it. Excellent post, as always. Regards
had 2 thoughts about Purtata video. it is older than it looks or they just tried to do something that was way out of their budget to look good. Clicked on the video, it is the second one :D
Alternosfera guy sounds so familiar that i can hear the exact same stile and tone of voice singing in English, but can't remember who it is.
Now trying to remember how many songs do i really like but don't understand the language. i think not a lot.
The civilization is going to die is kinda an old topic in developed nations (well for them it was more of they will be substituted), but it became a big talking point year or two back as Elon is mentioning it all the time and having children left and right to save humanity.
Just clicked on the podcast and it started pretty aggressive, but then as it actually started she sounds so fake in the first few sentences "thank you for having me back... so cool..." or maybe it is just training (or maybe it is just my current state of mind)
Now I'm curious what guy you mean! Some of their stuff reminds me of Placebo a lot, but more so the instrumental parts.
Quite special when that happens, though. Isn't it?
Yeah I thought the girl was kinda fake too, though she did make some interesting points about how we signal without realizing. There's all these things that go into communication that we're not even aware of, it seems.
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i can't remember and now i will go crazy.
She did say she is a recovered awkward person right after that. i am not sure do i want to be recovered :D
She does have some interesting points about things changing with online stuff. And being busy and not having time (guilty of the excuse, but mostly because i don't like to plan meeting with someone weeks ahead). And she did sound less fake later on.
Relationships were simpler in the 1970s, before computers and social media. I can't imagine trying to date someone now. My youngest daughter is in her early 30s. She is a single mom, never married; the baby daddy is a classic Deadbeat Dad. She has had many boyfriends over the years. Most of them turned out to be narcissists and/or abusive. Some were already married but not admitting it. Others were found out to be "in a relationship" with two or more women at once. She has just about given up on finding someone who is kind, honest, trustworthy, gentle, and loyal. The good ones are already taken, and the older she gets, the worse the selection is.
My son is 40, and theorizes that men are reluctant to marry and settle down because of how easy and common it is to get a divorce now, and men find themselves losing everything in a divorce settlement. I can't say I blame them.
Life has gotten too complicated. I'm glad I'm on the far end of it now.
Hey there! I think your son is right in many ways! I've heard too many horror stories about men getting the shitty end of the stick, so I can certainly empathize with the few good men still out there, especially since a good bit of the dating pool is, unfortunately, the one your daughter encountered, which naturally casts a less than favorable light on good, honest men.
It is complicated, indeed. I take hope in people trying to fix things, regular people as well as people in a professional capacity...It's nice to see you around! :)